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 number15 writes "Boston has offered RFA Phil Kessel to Toronto in exchange for Tomas Kaberle and the 7th overall draft pick.... Toronto is holding out to see any better offeres
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The Boston Bruins are in pursuit of Tomas Kaberle and a top 10 pick in today's draft.
Sources tell TSN the Bruins have offered restricted free agent forward Phil Kessel to Toronto in exchange for Leaf defenceman Kaberle and Toronto's No. 7 pick in the draft.
The Leafs are apparently canvassing the league to see if there are any better offers out there.
Kessel, taken fifth overall by the Bruins in 2006, scored 36 goals and 60 points last season, his third campaign in the NHL. With restricted free agent David Krejci signed to a long-term deal and the team pushed up against next year's salary cap, general manager Peter Chiarelli was rumoured to be shopping the young scorer.
Kaberle completed his 10th season with the Maple Leafs in 2008-09 and has two years left on his contract worth $4.25 million a season. While he has a no-trade clause, Kaberle's contract allows him to be dealt during a small window in the offseason that opens with the commencement of the draft tonight.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=282921
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Elite_Destruction on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | IF Burke did this which he won't and i can't see him accepting this trade, but if he did, i would like to see him try to get a mid 1st round pick and grab Kassian, he's a player who would fit what we need on this team. Anyways time for me to go lay down.
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by mojo19 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | IF this happens I'll just become a Red Wings fan. There. |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by daveski111 (Leaffan18@hotmail.com) on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | what kind of offer is that?? burke wont do it. he said hes keeping his picks this year unless he needs 2 use some to move up in the draft. i like kessel a lot but i wouldnt give up kaber and are 7th pick. thats just stupied. kaber is getting paid 4.25 mil over next session. thats all for an allstar d man. anyways stupied offer
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Tachmo on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | As a bruins fan, at first reaction I think I hate this trade. Kessel is a pure goal scorer and will soon be potting 50 a year in my opinion. He is young and has to work out a few things still. He is a game breaker, the same type of player like Kovalchuk, Semin. Kaberle is a great defenceman, but the last couple years he has been injured and hasn't put up great numbers. I guess the wild card is the 1st rounder which cannot be overlooked.
Boston rids themselve of what I think a 40+ goal scorer and receives a top 2 defenceman and a 1st rounder. It is actually a good deal for both teams as Boston could use another Dman and Toronto needs a yound flashy scorer. I just think Kessel's ceiling is unlimited right now, and he is the best player in the deal, so I say no dice.
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by habswinthecup-again on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | I can't believe that Burke is even considering this trade, just brutal. Totally lopsided in Boston's favor. |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by muckies on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | WHY the HELL does Burke have to comment on every single thing in the hockey world. Predicting who the Isles will take, Heatley, and last year he held a press conference to announce he was STILL "at this point in time" the GM of Anaheim. This from a GM that blasted Heatley and Kevin Lowe for contract status issues. This guy gives Irish gab a very very bad name.
I hope he falls flat on his face today. What a double nut sucker this guy is turning out to be. |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by JoelJoel (Bill@microsoft.com) on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | I know I'll probably get blasted for it, but why not swap players and picks.
Boston is 25h, Leafs are 7th. Maybe swap players and 1st rounders (leafs would probably have to throw in a couple other lower round picks to make it more fair).
Tor: Boston's 25th overall, Kessel
Bos: Toronto's 7th overall, Kaberle + 2nd or 3rd rounder next year, and a conditional
Boston moves WAY up and Toronto moves down in a deep draft without giving up a pick they don't get back this year.
It will never happen, but this seems a bit more realistic.
Yes? No? Crazy?... you guys (and gals) decide.
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by mon167 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | That is a terrible trade for Toronto lol Kaberle and Kessel are both good and i'd want either of them on my team...so when you add a top 10 draft pick in this strong draft the deal really become unbalanced! lol Plus i don't see how Kaberle's cap hit really helps the bruins...its not far from what kessel is said to be looking for
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by bbruins37 (qwerty@hotmail.com) on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | nooo whydo this trade bruins? we had the least goals against and the most goals in the league from the point.im not going to lie, it's somewhat intriguing but kessel is too much. and to trade kessel to a team in your division? |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by JannettyTheRocker (2006 WESTERN CONFERENCE CHAMPS) on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | You know what I could see happening if this Toronto/Boston deal doesn't go through. I could see the Oilers & Bruins making a swap. The Oiler's need a pure goal-scorer, and it appears that Boston is looking for a solid defenseman and first round draft pick. And the Oil/Bruins have been long time trading partners, so this makes some sense.
To Edmonton : Phil Kessel
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To Boston : Tom Gilbert or Denis Grebeshkov, Edmonton's 10th overall pick, and potentially a prospect/late round draft pick.
Rumors are that Jay Bouwmeester is interested in signing with the Oilers, his hometown team. And by swinging the trade with Boston, this gives the team an opening on the blueline to add JBo.
Any thoughts?
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by leafy on Friday, June 26
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Totally ridiculous trade. I will jump out the window if this happened. Mind you, I live on the ground floor.
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by bbruins37 (qwerty@hotmail.com) on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | the one thing i dont get about this trade is the cap space. kessel will probably be getting right around 4.25 if not lower (krejci got 3.75) so how does this in any way help the cap situation?
but if this trade happens:
Lucic - Savard - Bergeron
Wheeler - Krejci - Ryder
Sturm - Sobotka - Kobasew
Bitz - Hamill - Thornton
Chara - Kaberle
Wideman - Ference
Ward - Hunwick
Thomas
Rask
That top 3 defense would be somewhat ridiculous...3 dmen that'll get you 50 points.
bergie is more than capable of filling the top line role on the wing, and playing with savard could rejeuvenate his career...and with sturm coming back...
but giving up kessel, i just dont know; that's the kind of trade that could bite you in the ass. then again we'd be fetting OEL, Cowen, MPS, Kadri at 7th
anyway you look at it im looking forward to tonight! names like kessel, kaberle, heatley, lecavaillier on the block and add in that this draft is stockpiled with great talent, and this is gonna be one to remember! |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by DJTOKid on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | This deal won't happen if the leafs have to give up the first round pick. Kaberle and a second for kessel is good enough Boston can take it or leave it. |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by zambo (hockeydude_1993@hotmail.com) on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | this will never happen cuz the
point of trading kaberle
is 2 free up cap-space &
to obtain another 1st round pick
or move up higher in the draft,
so if this happens, this would scar and shock me!
if this deal did happen boston got the better deal,
cuz kaberle is an all-star defenseman & their getting
the 7th overall pick which could get u cowen, schenn, kassian,
kadri, etc. & the leafs get kessel who is a great player,
but wants 2 much money.
even if the bruins include their 1st round pick its still a rip
off cuz the leafs can still get a good player but
not as worthy as a 7th overall pick,
so i dont like it one bit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by KingCanada on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | I would have a very hard time accepting that trade if it involved our 7th overall pick. Id prefer something along these lines...
To Toronto: Phil Kessel
To Boston: Tomas Kaberle, 2nd rounder, Jimmy Hayes / Mikael Stefanovich
This would be much more appropriate and it will add to Bostons already deep prospect pool as well as give them a very dominant defence. In this instance both teams should be happy and the Leafs still have a shot at drafting Brayden Schenn. |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by FrankTheTank3388 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | I don't see why so many people are so against this. It does look like Boston wins a bit with this but look at it more closely. Kessel is already a proven scorer. If he didn't miss games for mono, he would have been on pace to score 40. He's only 21-22 so you know he's still just going to be getting better. He's a player that Toronto could sign for a long time and be a scoring threat up there.
Kaberle on the other hand does have 2 more years to his contract at a cap friendly price but seeing how the cap will be unpredictable then and that Boston has a good group of young guys, who knows if Boston will be able to resign him when the contract is up? And draft picks are never reliable. Need I remind people of Alexander Daigle? So you're basically trading a young, sure thing guy who could sign for a long time for a defenseman Boston is likely to have for just 2 years and a draft pick which should never be considered a sure thing. You may think Boston wins now, but in 3 years from now, Boston may not have anything to show for it while Toronto could still have Kessel locked up for a few more years...
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Elite_Destruction on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | Dreger just reported on Twitter that the Ducks and Flyers are in "Serious Discussion" over Pronger, take it for whats its worth.
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by pezzz123 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Flyers and Ducks are talking trade involving Pronger. |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Kramer on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | Big trades are gonna happen today. I can't wait.
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by lukeleim on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Phil Kessel will be a star in the NHL but Boston's asking price is too high. If the Bruins also offered their first round draft pick along with Kessel, then I'd consider this trade. |
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Re: Not sure what to think (Score: 1)
by the_word on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | If we pull the trigger and sign the twins we've rebuilt our top six almost overnight.
I suspect Kessel would sign around 5-5.5 million per. 16 million on three gamebreakers is reasonable.
Sedin-Sedin-Poni
Hagman-Kessel-Blake
Good top six with tons of caproom coming in 2010 to land another piece up front.
I'd hate to give up Cowan, this is a head stracher, depends on who is available at 7th.
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by the_word on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | Throw in Tukka Rask and deal is done. Like he'll see the ice stuck behind Tim Vezina anyway.
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by cam7777 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | Wow, a lot of people, including TSN and Chiarelli, seem to be vastly over-rating Kessel, and of course, under-rating Tomas Kaberle. I'm shocked there's Bruins fans on here even thinking about complaining about this trade.
Do you honestly think that you couldn't just put boyd devereaux on savard's wing, and in kessel's spot on the powerplay? the result would be almost the same. kessel is good, and he will only get better, but he has a number of flaws.
For starters, he benefits a great deal from playing with Savard (top minutes, top powerplay), and playing for an extremely deep Bruins squad. Move him to the Leafs, and watch his production plummet. Sure he is a sniper, but who is going to pass him the puck in Toronto? It's a serious downgrade for him to go from being fed beauties by Savard and having Lucic watch his back, to having Ponikarovsky sloppily dish him the puck and Jamal Mayers watching out for him 3 minutes a game.
Secondly, Kessel is streaky. Oh yea, that's just what the Leafs need is more long stretches of no production. Kessel scored 36 goals last year, sure, but about 25 of them came in 18 games; he scattered a few throughout the season, and then had another hot streak towards the end.
He's also injury prone, and small, and Chiarelli has tried to move him numerous times in the past.
Wait for Philly to lose out on Jay-Bo, and go hard after them Burke. Don't go after this Kessel crap. The last thing the Bruins need is another one of our top prospects killing us for years to come (rask). |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by number15 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | Kaberle for Kessel straight up, seem fair to me... Boston can take it or leave it
............... if they want the 7th overall, demand Tuuka Rask. again i say, take it or leave it
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by nordiques100 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | tsn has updated.
it now says kessel and a pick (not boston's 1st rounder) for Kaberle
no more mention of the 7th overall.
could they flip Kessel to get into the top 3? |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by pezzz123 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | You know what? I think there's a 3rd party in this trade.
To Boston : Kaberle, 7th overall
To LA : Kessel, 25th overall
To Toronto : 5th overall, 35th overall |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by TheLeafNation91 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | NEW RUMORS FROM CBS:
1) BURKE IS TALKING TO THRASHERS ABOUT THE 4TH
2) BURKE APPARENTLY IN TALKS WITH SAN JOSE ABOUT RYAN CLOWE FOR THE 7TH???? WTF????
SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS, BUT BURKE IS CAUSING MORE DRAMA THEN GENERAL HOSPITAL |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by TheLeafNation91 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | NEW RUMORS FROM CBS:
1) BURKE IS TALKING TO THRASHERS ABOUT THE 4TH
2) BURKE APPARENTLY IN TALKS WITH SAN JOSE ABOUT RYAN CLOWE FOR THE 7TH???? WTF????
SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS, BUT BURKE IS CAUSING MORE DRAMA THEN GENERAL HOSPITAL |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by TheLeafNation91 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Sportsnet has reported that Kaberle will most likely be gone by tonight... |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by nordiques100 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | i cant blame burke for waiting.
its kessel and a mid rounder for kaberle. i think he wants the bruins 1st rounder. or another comparable offer that includes a late 1st.
there, he can use that plus one or both of the 2nds to maybe move up to the mid 1st round to get a shot at kassian
if he lands kessel then, and still has the 7th, there is where it can get juicy.
i think he can move into the top 5 if not hte top 3.
kessel to LA for the 5th and a prospect. this trade is required because while kessel is a potential terrific scorer on the horizon, the avs, bolts and isles dont want that kind of financial commitment.
the avs are rumoured to be trying to cut salaries
the bolts, obviously wtih the lecavalier rumours
and the isles, well who knows.....
but if they pull that off, then here, we find the 5th and 7th available to any one of the top 3 teams. and from that the leafs end up with duchene or tavares.
i cant put it past burke to be this aggressive but it will be a miracle for sure. |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by cam7777 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | Potentially bad news for the Leafs and the Kaberle situation : Pronger is apparently on the block again, according to Dreger. This could suck all the interest from Kaberle until it is clear what will happen with Pronger, just like at the deadline.
It could also be potentially great. If Anaheim manages to trade Pronger to LA, as previously rumored, for a 5th and a prospect, it could be much easier for Burke to move up to 5. He would be talking to a team he knows very well, and a team he knows has shown interest in Grabovski in the past.
Also, if Pronger is actually traded for a huge package, it really makes Kaberle even more valuabe. He is cheaper, and signed longer, so you would think whatever Pronger goes for, Kaberle would get close to that (and possibly more). Let's just hope he's traded and this doesn't completely screw Kaberle's value... |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Nevyn on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | According to Bob McKenzie at TSN the offer was Kessel PLUS a (non 1st round) choice for Kaberle.
That would make infinitely more sense considering that Kessel is a RFA and Kaberle is locked up for awhile in a very cap friendly deal. |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by offside12 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Paul Hendrick just tweeted that he heard the latest offer for Kaberle is to Atlanta for Ron Hainsey and the 4th Overall pick. |
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Re: Sorry if this has already been posted... (Score: 1)
by the_word on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | Just heard on 590 that Dallas is pitching the 8th pick and a prospect (whose name didn't really register with me) for Kaberle.
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Elite_Destruction on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | The Boston/Toronto trade talk is off and could be dead according to TSn, also following Darren Dreger on Twitter, he is reporting Niedermayer is returning for another season, does this mean Boston is now gonna take a run at Pronger, if so i don't see how they can get him with the cap issues any ideas or comments?
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Elite_Destruction on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | Also if Burke does get up to 4, who would you guys want Kane or Scheen?
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Elite_Destruction on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | K this is getting rediculous, now Tsn is reporting it was a miscommunication, and the Kabs/Kessel trade is on hold and not quite dead lol, anyways im out draft is on in 5 :), be back in a bit :P
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Elite_Destruction on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | DREGER JUST SAID PRONGER IS NOW A FLYER!!!
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by cam7777 on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | | I called it. I knew Pronger being on the market would screw up the Leafs chances of making a deal with the Flyers. Curious to see what they got for Pronger.... |
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by Elite_Destruction on Friday, June 26
(User Info | Send a Message) | I think Burkey is stuck at 7 :(
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Re: Boston-Toronto Blockbuster (Score: 1)
by leafy on Friday, June 26
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Where's that Kaberle trade they promised us?
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