 | Hawks About To Move Sopel? |
According to TSN's Bob McKenzie the Hawks have the big three all but officially signed. The big three would be Jonathan Toews, Patrick Kane, and Duncan Keith for roughly around 18 million per season for all three core players.
Now, there is what is known as a "tagging" issue. And it gets complicated, but more or less its a constraint so GMs can't spend a ton of money in extensions without having reasonable cap room for the next available season. And the Hawks are off by just a bit. The odd man out seems to be Brent Sopel, he makes $2.3 million this season and next and is just a depth defenseman. GM Stan Bowman can try to move him in the next week or so or maybe even put him on waivers and send him to the minors.
If was to go unclaimed, the Hawks would send him down to the AHL and his salary would come off the cap. The Hawks would just still have to pay Sopel his NHL salary. There isn't going to be a major roster shakeup like most expected, at least not this season as the Hawks are looking like a strong Cup contender. Bob McKenzie also suggest that maybe the Cam Barker trade rumors come to fruitition but it wouldn't be till the summer, to free up more cap space for the Hawks.
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Re: Hawks About To Move Sopel? (Score: 1)
by DannyLeafs (dude@dudemail.com) on Saturday, November 21
(User Info | Send a Message) | Here is a deal that may sound a little lopsided, but once you really think about it, I don't think it is so bad.
to Chi:
C- Stajan
D- Exelby
W- Tlusty
to Tor:
D- Sopel
W- Beach
2nd Rd Draft pick
Personally, I think a deal like this makes more sense than most people might think. First off, Chicago gets a replacement center for Bolland, a defensemen that can easily replace Sopel, the extra tagging room and cap space they need to make the signings official, and a prospect that can actually afford to inject into their lineup in the coming years.
Many people think that it would be crazy to think that Chicago might be willing to part with Beach, however, Chicago has cap trouble, and Beach's contract will include bonuses that have a cap hit of about 3.3 million per season. It is widely known that Chicago is likely to move at least one, and most likely two of Barker, Sharp, Byfuglien, and Versteeg and if Beach is going to make the team, they would have to move an additional 3.3 million in contract in the form of players who would most likely have a larger impact than Beach is likely to have in his rookie season.
Chicago wants to win now, and be a contender for many years, and Beach is a player that will soon be NHL ready. Chicago is unlikely going to be willing to move an important piece of their team in order to give a Rookie a chance, knowing that if he plays too well they probably can't afford to keep him with all of their big contracts anyway.
Tlusty may not have Beach's potential, but he still has untapped offensive ability that could yet flourish, especially on a skilled and dangerous team like Chicago. Since Tlusty's entry level contract is expiring, and he has yet to earn regular NHL work, he is likely to sign another two way deal with a cap hit of a million or less, meaning they could actually afford to give him some chances to break into the line up without moving someone out. And, if in the next years of his deal, he does prove to be a top six winger, they could get some good value out of him, while they decide on how to deal with his re-signing.
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Re: Hawks About To Move Sopel? (Score: 1)
by wayne2 on Sunday, November 22
(User Info | Send a Message) | | After trading Sopel if the hawks still need to make cap room they should trade Campbell instead of Barker. |
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Re: Hawks About To Move Sopel? (Score: 1)
by Wild_001 on Sunday, November 22
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Exalby for Sopel + 2nd
That trade seems realistic to me, but the fact that the Hawks' assistant general manager was watching the Marlies and the Leafs (without Exelby), it made me wonder if a bigger trade is in the works.
Exelby + Poni/Stempniak + Hamilton/Tlusty for Sopel + Byfuglien/Versteeg + 2nd
Chicago gets their much needed cap relief for the 2010/2011 season while still maintaining the core of their team in their (likely) deep playoff run of this season. |
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Re: Hawks About To Move Sopel? (Score: 1)
by KingCanada on Sunday, November 22
(User Info | Send a Message) | So just out of curiosity I was just wondering what you guys think Kane, Toews and Keith are worth? And do you guys think they all take a slight pay cut (say 1 million each) to try to keep the team together?
So lets start...
Patrick Kane
-Will be 21 i think by contract's end and has averaged 70 points roughly, on pace for 80-90 this year.
-He is a top line RW with or without Hossa on ur team.
-Comparible players...Ryan Getzlaf 5.325 million, Jeff Carter 5 million, Patrice Bergeron 4.75 million.
Jonathan Toews
-Also very young at re-sign and has averaged 60-65 points and is track for roughly the same
-This kid is the captain as well so that sometimes translates to more money
-Top line center
-Comparibles... Phil Kessel 5.4 million, Corey Perry 5.325, Mike Richards 5.75 million.
Duncan Keith
-He's 25 and entering his prime, has averaged 35-40 points and is on pace for 72 points this year!!! Amasing but he will probably reach 60-65 which is still great.
-He is a top 2 defencemen and they come at a high pricetag.
-Comparibles..Jay Bouwmeester 6.68 million, Dion Phaneuf 6.5 million, Dennis Wideman 3.875 million, Joni Pitkanen 4 million..hell even Mike Komiserak got 4.5
So at the end of the day I think Duncan Keith will be the most expensive since IMO is most comparible to JBO and Phaneuf so expect him in the 5.5-6.5 range. And then looking at both Toews and Kane they are pretty close in comparison but should net roughly the same amount of money, my guess is 5 million.
So I think they are worth roughly this per season (Id assume there all 4-7 year contracts but wont speculate on how long)
Duncan Keith 6 million
Patrick Kane 5.5 million
Jonathan Toews 5 million
Total= 16.5 million for all 3
So that leaves them CURRENTLY with no cap to sign the rest of the team with approx less then 2 million left. If Im correct with my numbers and also if Cam's trade of Brouwer, Sopel for Stajan, Exelby can go down then they have the potential to be fine.
If however they ask for more money then that the Blackhawks are screweddd considering they still need to sign 2 defencemen and 2-3 forwards (that or bring up from the farm which still costs 500k-1 million per player).
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Re: Hawks About To Move Sopel? (Score: 1)
by DannyLeafs (dude@dudemail.com) on Sunday, November 22
(User Info | Send a Message) | I know I am probably going to get several comments saying this statement is idiotic, but I am not quite sure that moving Brian Campbell is in Chicago's best interests.
Don't get me wrong, if Chicago could just magically make Brian Campbell's contract disappear, they would be much better off, however, since it is likely they will have to give up more than just Campbell to get the job done, I am not sure it is really worth it. Think about it this way, right now Brian Campbell is playing the second most minutes of any player on the team, and he is actually playing pretty well. Cam Barker is basically only playing the powerplay, and is the least utilized defensemen on the team 5 on 5. In all honesty, Brian Campbell is only getting overpaid by about 1.5-2 million dollars at most. If he were making 5.25 million per season, I think it would be a no brainer on who you would keep. Chicago could easily find a buyer for Barker that would actually give up a good asset to get him. So here is how it breaks down. You can trade Campbell and give up Beach just to move him, you save 7 million in cap space, but overall your team is weaker. You trade Barker, get a good asset, your team stays relatively the same strength since you already have 3 good powerplay defensemen on the team and save 3 million in cap space, but have more organizational depth.
I also think that all three of Byfuglien, Bolland, and Versteeg are getting overpaid for what they contribute to the team. With Toews, Kane, Sharp and Hossa making as much money as they are, you really can't afford to have another three guys making over 3 million a piece to basically act as depth players. I realize that all of these players are young and have potential to get better, however, if they do get better, they will be looking for raises and Chicago will find themselves in the same situation a few years from now.
As for Huet, I really think it is up in the air. He is being overpaid, but at 5.6 million, he really isn't being paid all that much more than you should expect to pay a number one goalie. If he plays poorly, then Chicago may be better off moving him, even at the expense of a draft pick, and going with a veteran backing up one of their young goalies. If he plays well, his contract is only two more years, and they could afford to keep him in order to keep their team at full strength.
In my opinion, Chicago could trade 2 or 3 or even all of Byfuglien, Versteeg, Bolland and Barker, get good assets in return, and keep their team just as strong as it is right now, without having to give up any draft picks or high end prospects to do it.
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