 | Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan |
 albertateams writes "One of the last posts there was a discussion about having more articles that aren't about the leafs. So in that spirit, I was reading an interesting article from Richard Cloutier the Oilers Blogger on Hockey Buzz.
http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Richard-Cloutier/Should-the-Oilers-Sign-Ryan/131/29818
To summarize the article he posses the question should the Oilers offer sheet Bobby Ryan. There are obvious advantages and disadvantages should the Oilers decide to do so. The Oilers would have to offer something around 6 million per for 6+ years for there to be any chance the Ducks do not match. Edmonton has a ton of young prospect wingers (Hall, Eberle , MPS, Omark), however adding a proven 23 old power forward, 30+ goal scorer is never that bad of an idea. Compensation would be 1st 2nd and 3rd round picks the first could again be a top 5 pick very easily, however would those picks turn out to be better than Bobby Ryan if the draft is not as strong as other years?
The Oilers have a greater need for a top line center and a glaring need for some good young defensemen. If Ryan were to be signed (assuming the ducks don't match) the Oilers could translate Dustin Penner and/or Ales Hemsky into young defensemen and picks/prospects. Having a top six of:
Hall Gagner Ryan
MPS Brule Eberle
Has the potential to be very good in the not too distant future. Would Nashville or LA consider these trade:
Nashville: Dustin Penner or Ales Hemsky
Oilers: 1 of Jon Blum, Ryan Ellis, Cody Franson and a pick
LA: Dustin Penner or Ales Hemsky
Oliers: Colten Teubert or Tom Hickey and a pick or Brayden Schenn
For a deal for the Schenn the oilers would probably have to give back one of there other prospects (Pitlick, Lander)
Another possibility is for the Oilers to target Luke Schenn or Carl Gunnerson, However this is more unlikely given the leafs are also in a rebuild, however they do have extra defenseman lying around."
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Re: Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan (Score: 1)
by PhaneufLeafsCaptain on Thursday, August 19
(User Info | Send a Message) | I read the comment about so many Maple Leaf discussions, so I wanted to comment on a non-Leaf-article.
The Oilers should definitely send an offer sheet to Bobby Ryan. I think that would already make the Oilers a better team having him on the roster. Hall and Ryan would be an unreal pair.
I'm going to think more about this one and post another comment later. |
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Re: Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan (Score: 1)
by PhaneufLeafsCaptain on Thursday, August 19
(User Info | Send a Message) | I read the comment about so many Maple Leaf discussions, so I wanted to comment on a non-Leaf-article.
The Oilers should definitely send an offer sheet to Bobby Ryan. I think that would already make the Oilers a better team having him on the roster. Hall and Ryan would be an unreal pair.
I'm going to think more about this one and post another comment later. |
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Re: Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan (Score: 1)
by ovechking on Thursday, August 19
(User Info | Send a Message) | | For not being a Maple Leaf story you sure did a good job making it seem like one.
LA: Dustin Penner (two years at 4.25 mil) or Ales Hemsky(two years at 4.1)
Oliers: Colten Teubert or Tom Hickey and a pick or Brayden Schenn
Can you explain why LA would ever consider a trade like that? They have a lot of cap space now but they also have 4 RFA's next year with Doughty, Johnson and Simmons all looking at a nice raise. Maybe edmonton can pry Simmons but again why would LA want either of the aforementioned?
Nashville is too cheap to pay for over-paid Oilers.
Who in the league would actually consider Penner or Hemsky actually as a valuable asset to their team to give up young prospects in this day in age?
I understand wanting to get rid of them but you got to remember that you want them gone for a reason and that's the same reason no one else wants them at the price you suggested.
I say it's like Leaf talk because it might as well be saying the leafs should trade Finger for Brayden Schenn.
Burke might be the only idiot to go after Penner but even then the only thing he would offer is Finger!
This is just a bunch of crazy hypotheticals just like the Oilers drafting Seguin and Hall or the Leafs trading Kaberle for anything of actual value.
Hope that Hemsky and Penner both are on pace for 35-40 goal seasons by the trade deadline if you want anything at all like what you just mentioned! |
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Re: Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan (Score: 1)
by frankinboltonleafs on Thursday, August 19
(User Info | Send a Message) | | An "offer sheet" is just that...an offer. You think Ryan wants to play in Edmonton...a NJ boy? I don't think so. There's a better chance they trade Penner for Getzlaf straight up than Ryan signing with the Oliers. I can't even see Ryan wanting to play with the Leafs for all the rumours that were happening there. And we at least have an american slant happening here! That Pronger fiasco will haunt the Oilers for ages. |
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Re: Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan (Score: 1)
by MystifoLeafs on Thursday, August 19
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Would this help them? Hell yeah it would hes a amazing player and would fit in.
Would he sign? I don't know really he likes the Ducks as is. |
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Re: Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan (Score: 1)
by hockey_lover on Friday, August 20
(User Info | Send a Message) | I think there should be more offer sheets. They are way exciting. Look at how peeved Burke was at Lowe when he did that to Penner. It was awesome.
Should Edmonton try to lure Ryan? Sure, why not. Either way, they get something back. If they get Ryan, sweet, they get him. If not, they get compensation. Either way .. its a win win. The issue is will he sign afterwards? Edmonton seems to be having trouble signing big name players lately.
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Re: Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan (Score: 1)
by reinjosh on Friday, August 20
(User Info | Send a Message) | Richard Cloutier annoys me. Maybe its the fact that he actually has some good ideas or knowledge to go with his far more moronic ones, I don't know. Anyways, my irrelevant thoughts on him aside...
His reasoning on this one isn't so bad. Its pretty decent. Ryan would be a huge asset to the team and would give the younger guys like Hall and Eberle a bigger player to make room for them. Ryan could be a perennial 30 goal guy or more and would instantly free up the ability to trade Penner.
There are downsides. I'm going to assume he would accept to the Oilers and in doing so, it would be a two year deal, nothing more. Ryan hasn't budged on that so far and to assume he would sign with the Oilers, it would have to be a two year deal. The Oilers are not the most appealing team to play for in the leauge as countless players have demonstrated and it would only make sense for Ryan to sign if its a two year deal with them.
If he signs, the possibility that you bomb is huge. Yes, he is a 30 goal scorer, but the youngsters are still there and the possibility of you losing doesn't really diminish all that much. So the Oilers could be facing a Leafesque (other factors be damned) type deal but that may not be so bad. As long as they stay out of the bottom 5, even the bottom 3, its safe to assume that Ryan could be a better player than the pick they give up, assuming the scouts are right on the 2011 draft being weak. Plus with any Penner or Hemsky trade, a first rounder or equivalent prospect could be brought back.
Personally, I say do it. The risk isn't all that bad and you get to skip the development stages of a top prospect. Plus it should shut up a ton of stupid Leaf haters haha.
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Re: Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan (Score: 1)
by tml54321 (senssuck@habssucktoo.com) on Sunday, August 22
(User Info | Send a Message) | | I think offer sheeting Ryan without paying him those huge dollars (6 mill and up) is easier than it seems. One of the sticking points to the negotiations between Ryan and Murray is term and the fact that Murray doesn't want to give Ryan a 3 year deal because of Perry and Getzlaf, so why doesn't a team just offer him a 3 year deal around 5 mill. It would be very hard for the ducks to match that knowing they would then have their 3 stars be ufas in 3 years and even if they did match it would make a very interesting free agent pool in 3 years. |
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Re: Should the Oilers Make an Offer Sheet to Bobby Ryan (Score: 1)
by SabresFan220 (SabresFan220@hotmail.com) on Monday, August 23
(User Info | Send a Message) | I don't know if I would make a substantial offer to Bobby Ryan this year if I'm the Oilers. They are relying heavily on many young players to turn their team around this year and I don't expect them to be very competitive, especially if Hemsky or Penner are dealt. I could see the Ducks picking top 10 if they didn't match the offer sheet.
If Penner is suddenly available I could see the Sabres making a pitch to get him. Penner on the wing with Roy or Connolly could be very productive. He also brings size which the Sabres lack in their top 6. The Oilers have coveted Stafford since he was drafted, and Sabres fans would like nothing better than to be rid of him. Of course Buffalo would have to give up more than him in the deal. Something like this:
To Buffalo: Penner
To Edmonton: Stafford, Butler
Stafford is younger than Penner, he and Butler are both RFAs at the end of this season. Both players are relatively young and would fit into the Oilers' rebuilding model. The Sabres are currently carrying 8 NHL defensemen on their roster, so including Butler would make some sense. The Sabres would also be picking up $2.35 million in cap hit, but I think Penner would be worth that. Buffalo should be trying to contend for the Cup, a move like this one for Penner would make sense for them.
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