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tharock098 writes "Heading into Nashville this Saturday and Sunday, the television sets of many die hard fans of the NHL will be glued to watch who will hold the 1st pick overall, and who that team will pick.
Lets first address who will hold the 1st overall pick come Saturday. Florida's GM Rick Dudley openly admits that he is more than willing to ship the pick off to a team who entices him the most. It is known that Carolina, who holds the 2nd overall pick, would love to get thier hands on Canadian Goalie Marc-Andre Fleury because of thier very weak goaltending. They are not too sure that if they keep thier 2nd overall pick, the team who winds up with the 1st wont pick Fleury above them. The rumored players being offered is Jeff O'Neill and a swap of picks. Other teams being interested are Pittsburgh, Boston, Philidelphia and now Toronto. Damian Cox of canoe.ca is reporting that Toronto would love to have thier hands on the 1st overall pick, to more than likely pick Eric Staal. Now dont take this article as another Leaf rumor that is made up, or that there is no chance of the Leafs getting the 1st overall, but im sure the Leafs would like to put on a new image and get thier 1st overall pick since 1985 when they selected a Leaf favourite Wendel Clark.
Lets now address who would more than likely be the first to put on the brand new jersey and hat. Eric Staal is definately this years best prospect, weighing in at a 6 foot 3, 182 pounder, he is not going to be knocked around. Many predict that this 19 year old will eventually become at his lowest as great as Ron Francis or at his highest as great as Steve Yzerman. He is this years best blue chip prospect, who can guarantee cracking any small market teams lineup for next year. Florida will more likely than not ship the pick off to the team who makes the best offer. Suppose Caronina gets the 1st overall, Marc Andre Fleury is going to North Carolina, then depending on if Carolina keeps thier 2nd overall, Eric Staal will go #2. Imagine if the Hurricanes can manage to retain thier #2 pick, while trading roster players for the #1 overall? Its a scenario which could play out, but thats only if Carolina does offer a better deal than anyone else.
Pittsburgh has admitted that they would want Marc-Andre Fleury, and they have been willing to trade up. Martin Straka is the only feasable trade which Pittsburgh could offer (Martin straka for a swap of 2003 picks). Fleury would be a welcome addition to a more than struggling team, but at the price of Martin Straka and possibly the loss of Mario Lemieux, the Pittsburgh offence would be zero.
Philidelphia's goaltending as of now is not very good. Robert Esche is not the kind of goaltender which Philidelphia would like to see as thier #1 for next year. Rumors flying are that Philly would like to sign Jeff Hackett if nothing pans out on draft day or before July 1. They would like to trade up for Florida's #1 pick in order to solidify thier goaltending for a few years down the road. Justin Williams and Simon Gagne are the most wanted, and most likely to be trade bait for florida to try and snag. Gagne would provide depth along the left wing, and at $2,100,000 a season, he would be the same salary as Viktor Kozlov. I could see a deal going through that would send the #1 overall to Philly for Williams/Gagne and a swap of 1st round picks.
Boston has traded away thier backup, John Grahame to Tampa and may loose thier mid season aquisition, Jeff Hackett, to free agency or retirement. Relying on the services of Steve Shields, the Bruins organization could use either Staal or Fleury alot. Sergei Samsonov has been offered along with thier 1st rounder in exchange for the #1 overall. Samsonov's salary at $2,200,000/season is just along the same route as Simon Gagne, and Samsonov could provide the Panthers with depth along the wing.
Finally, Damian Cox reported that the Leafs would like to get thier hands on the 1st overall, why?, because of the new direction the team is heading. Hopefully before June 21, the Leafs will have hired a new General Manager, rumored to be Steve Tambelini from the Vancouver Canucks. With the impending firing of Bill Watters and Ken Dryden, the Leafs are mixing up thier management, which could have enough force to change thier 57th overall pick into 1st overall. The main trade bait could be Travis Green and Darcy Tucker both making $1,500,000/season. These players offered nothing more to the leafs than depth, so the Leafs could use them to pick Eric Staal. The leafs would not pick Marc-Andre Fleury because of thier already stellar goaltending prospects in Michael Tellqvist and Sebastian Centomo. Eric Staal would make a great addition to the St. Johns team and would more than likely crack the lineup in the 2004-2005 season. This trade isnt as likely to happen, as more desperate teams would be willing to offer much more than Green or Tucker.
All in all, this pick has a great chance of being traded at the last minuite to a desperate team wanting to get either a blue chip prospect in Eric Staal, or a goaltending legend in the works in Marc-Andre Fleury. My prediction is this pick will go to Carolina, who is much more desperate than any other team to select Marc-Andre Fleury. "
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by Cyrax89 on Tuesday, June 17 @ 11:50:46 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | | I hope that the rumors of the leafs wanting the #1 pick are true. They need to get much younger. But I bet that if the Panthers trade the pick that it will go to a team that no one even thought would get it. The one you never heard of in the rumor. |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by bender (flyersfan14@yahoo.com) on Tuesday, June 17 @ 12:08:53 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | OK....
Carolina is offering Jeff O'Neill.....
Pittsburgh is offering Straka....
Philly has Williams or Gagne
Boston has Samsonov
T.O. is offering Green and Tucker??
How does this look, and I mean seriously, LOL...
Even your attempt to sound realistic falls short, but I do give you some kudos for it.
If TO wants the pick were prolly looking at Antropov, Tucker or Green, and a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
And Gagne and a Philly 1st rounder for the number one pick is just plain nuts for Philly. Florida would have to give up a lot more than that.
Gagne for the number one pick, and a prospect, and another pick would make more sense.
I could see Williams straight across for the number one pick, but since the Flyers want Fluery, (and I don't think he's as good as everyone thinks) I would not make this deal.
But in all likely hood, if I was Dudley, I'd take the Carolina deal. Jeff O'Neill for the first pick overall. and maybe swap some picks around.
But I don't think it would be that easy, otherwise Dudley would have made the deal already. Carolina would be crazy to let this deal go straight across, as well.
On a side note, the Flyers have 5 3rd round picks this year, and with many scouts saying this deep draft has great players all the way into the third, the Flyers could really load their system.
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by r_milley on Tuesday, June 17 @ 12:30:07 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | Staal is this years best prospect who is not a goaltender. Fleury is by far this years best prospect.
Also saying Stall at his lowest will be Ron Francis is absolutely retarded. There are no Kovalchuk's or Thornton's in this draft, every scout will tell you that. The draft is deep because in this draft you have as good of a chance at getting a good a player with the 50th pick as you do with the 10th.
And Tellquist and Centomo are NOT stellar goaltending prospects. Kari Lehtonen is a stellar goaltending prospect. Marc-Andre Fleury is a stellar goaltending prospect.
If ANY team other then Atlanta, Florida, both new York teams and maybe Columbus acquired the #1 and did NOT take Fleury they'll regret it for the next 20 years. |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by mikster on Tuesday, June 17 @ 12:35:33 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | I don't think the Flyers will move up. They need to fix goaltending issues and they have two 1st rounders. They'll possibly pick either Jessiman, Bernier, or Carter with the 11th, and with the 24th overall they may get Stewart or Seabrook.
Flyers would be stupid to give up either Williams or Gagne plus the 11th overall for the 1st overall. Bad move.
Pittsburgh and Carolina will benefit from it.
Dudley is waiting for the GMs to choke and get impatient so they would offer more. Whoever acquires the 1st overall......is the one who lost patience.
Ramgers may make a deal with Calgary swaping picks.
Toronto has no chance to acquire that 1st overall. |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by tharock098 on Tuesday, June 17 @ 12:40:04 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | | my thoughts are that Carolina will offer too much, and will get a one sided trade favouring florida, especially if its a player and a swap of picks. |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by Hockeyman93 (larryBrooks@bettyford.org) on Tuesday, June 17 @ 13:10:44 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | First of all, the Leafs would have to offer alot more than Green and Tucker for the pick. Most likely, Tucker, a defensive prospect like Colaiacovo, Bell or Harrison, and their 2nd round pick. But, to be honest, I would rather have Colaiacovo and Bell in the system than Staal.
Second, what the hell is this about Francis and Yzerman?? The guys play totally different styles of hockey. And if my memory serves me, Ron Francis has more points than Yzerman does. Yzerman is a workhorse, who plays with passion, and isn't fancy. Francis is a set up man with good hands but no nach for goal scoring. Two completely different players. |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by Hockeyman93 (larryBrooks@bettyford.org) on Tuesday, June 17 @ 13:14:39 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | | Oh, and Damien Cox is a writer for the Toronto Star...not the Sun, which is a subsidiary of Canoe. |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by nskerr on Tuesday, June 17 @ 13:20:38 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | | All I have to say is watch out for Milbury. I have the same feeling this year as I did the year the Isles got Peca, Yashin and Aucoin. The papers have got him saying he is looking to move up and with a new coach on board, he will want to properly fit him. I wouldn't doubt the Ilses are all over the draft on Saturday. |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by tharock098 on Tuesday, June 17 @ 13:29:00 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | another rumor swirling is Roman Hamrlik is on the block, maybe to upgrade the NYL pick
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by pantherboy on Tuesday, June 17 @ 13:42:28 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | I would like to save everyone time by saying DO NOT write articles about Florida beingn rumored to trade Toronto the #1 pick. Dudly has stated he wants a good pick in return (like first round). The 51st pick or whatever sure isn't going to cut it. I really don't think the Leafs have anything to offer the Panthers in return for the pick. I could only see Dudly wanting Antropov. They aren't interested in defense or goaltending and thats the Leafs main strengths in terms of prospects.
So really the odds of the Leafs aquirring the pick are slim to none. |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by peanut_butter_shelf on Tuesday, June 17 @ 14:10:19 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | With the season the Canes had last year, in addition to the public crying of O'Neill, it wouldn't surprise me at all to see O'Neill as the center piece of a trade to acquire the #1 draft. The catch, though, is to get that #1 pick using roster players and post-1st round picks.
If they can find way to do this, they should be willing to offer the house. O'Neal and just about anyone on their current roster--not prospects.
That sets them up for rebuilding year, which is perfect for them. Then comes the high possibility of being in the running for the #1 pick in 2004.
Oh how sweet it would be for the organization to land Fleury and Staal in 2003. Then draft Alexander Ovechkin in their own arena in 2004. Then they'd have one hell of a future!
Do I think it will happen? Absolutely not.
Could this happen? Absolutely
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by habs_for_the_cup on Tuesday, June 17 @ 14:20:18 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | | i read about one month ago on thefourthperiod.com that the habs would really like to take one of the three first choices of the upcoming draft.... they would offer guys like Mike Ribeiro, Yannick Perreault, Donald Audette or the last but not the least( ya right!!!), Marriusz Czerchawsky(sp) and a swap of choices i think, and like i said before, it would be nice if the habs could get Eric Staal, a guy that can go in front of the net... |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by habs_for_the_cup on Tuesday, June 17 @ 14:20:19 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | | i read about one month ago on thefourthperiod.com that the habs would really like to take one of the three first choices of the upcoming draft.... they would offer guys like Mike Ribeiro, Yannick Perreault, Donald Audette or the last but not the least( ya right!!!), Marriusz Czerchawsky(sp) and a swap of choices i think, and like i said before, it would be nice if the habs could get Eric Staal, a guy that can go in front of the net... |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by jsFALLEN on Tuesday, June 17 @ 14:26:37 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | I think Mad Mike will be front and center again this year. I also think that the Isles will get the first overall pick by tradeing Peca, Parrish and the 15 overall pick for 1st pick a D-man(Lilja) and maybe Huselius and if Parrish doesn't go it will be Hamrlik. The Isles are going to be cost cutting again and they konw that nobody wants Yashin at his current price. Then thay'll Draft Staal or the russian Zherdev(more likely Zherdev to play with Yashin, he is Russian after all with a great scoring ability). After that they move a couple second rounders and a few 2nd teir players(Kvasha, Bates, Webb,Cairns,etc...)
I see Mike Building this team around Yashin(scince they can't get rid of him) and then youth. They will slash payroll and get rid of anybody who they think they can replace with a prospect and or move someone up a line(like Dave Scatchard to replace Peca)just to save money and see how the CBA shapes up. |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by kidhenry1 on Tuesday, June 17 @ 16:57:35 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | The isles would never trade that much for the top pick--Peca is not going anywhere because that would kill the clubhouse atmosphere--and look how well youngn's like Papaneu and Mapletoft work with him.
They might move Hamr and a second rounder to get another first round pick, maybe with Philly or Detroit, who wants defense. One thing's certain, though: the isles are moving their bridgeport team along quickly, as evidenced by the fact that they moved Steve Stirling up to the big league job instead of pursuing Robinson or Ftorek. Mad Mike will show up in Nashville on saturday. |
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Isles (Score: 1) by DaMick (Im_Da_Mick@Goons.com) on Tuesday, June 17 @ 17:09:15 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | Um no....Peca aint going no where because that would be a public relations nightmare.
[a captain getting traded??]
In all honesty the only players safe on the Isles for next year are as follows.
Peca- too hard to replace,real captains are hard to come by
Yashin- contract too big to move
Niinimaa- Young D signed through next year.
DiPietro- too much riding on his production & improvement.
Bates , Blake & Snow - too Good & more importantly Cheap to move.
thats about it.
anything else including Jonnson might be moved by sat.
DaMick
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A couple of questions.... (Score: 1) by big_booty on Tuesday, June 17 @ 17:24:12 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | Is it me, or does Rick Dudley look like Engelbert Humperdinck on smack?
When did Centomo and Tellqvist become "stellar?" Did the word nerds at Oxford change the meaning of the word to equate it with "mediocre?"
How do you define "a legend in the works?" I can only think of a twelve year-old Ron Jeremy.
Why do be-Leafers think that Green and Tucker are so valuable? If they are indeed as good as those homers say they are, why haven't they led their team to a Cup?
SCTP - "Fly high, lesbian seagull..." |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by bruinexpert on Tuesday, June 17 @ 17:41:16 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | | In my opinion Florida would be stupid not to take jeff o'neill and a swap of 1st and 2nd place picks with carolina, then take their 2nd pick and give it to someone that wants staal, the most i've heard so far on here is Tucker and Green so for a 1st round pick, florida would get O'Neill, Tucker and Green. not too shabby. i'm not saying tucker and green are worth the 2nd overall pick, i'm just using it as an example, they could get three quality players with a lot of experience and grit who can also put the puck in the net. In my opinion that's exactly what this young talented team needs. not to mention o'neill and green would be great leaders for a team full of youngsters |
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Re: Draft Day Updates, Wheelings and Dealings already in the works? (Score: 1) by tharock098 on Tuesday, June 17 @ 18:40:06 MDT (User Info | Send a Message) | | I just heard that the 2003 draft is the deepest since the 89 draft. The Leafs hold the 57th overall pick in this years draft as thier highest. The 57th overall pick in that draft became a cornerstone of the Minnesota Wild franchise, Wes Walz. Even after Walz, the players were still coming. After the 57th overall pick, some notable names were picked including Jason Woolley, Kris Draper, Robert Reichel, Sergei Federov, Trent Klatt, Pavel Bure, Dallas Drake, Donald Audette and Vladimir Malakhov and Arturs Irbe in the 10th round! This draft will put some of those notable names from the later rounds into the NHL for years to come. Note: Federov was 74th overall and Bure was 113th overall, the 74th in 2003 goes to Buffalo and the 113th goes to Montreal. |
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