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Leaf_Expert writes "HTML:http://insiders3.ezboard.com/ftorontomapleleafsfrm1.showMessage?topicID=4387.topic
The Toronto Maple Leafs being criticized for their lack of movement this summer, but actually have two significant trades purposed to improve the team’s defense.
According to the Fan590, The Leafs are talking to the Dallas Stars on a trade to acquire defensemen Darryl Sydor.
To Toronto: Darryl Sydor
To Dallas: Bryan McCabe and a player to be named later.
The case behind this deal is Robert Svehla not coming back next year and the Leafs looking for a proper replacement for him. Also McCabe is demanding more money from the club, which the Leafs will not due when they can have a proper replacement for that type of money in Sydor.
Also in other fronts, The Leafs have been report by Sportsnet's hockey analyst Nick Kipreos to have made an offer to the Buffalo Sabres for rearguard Alexei Zhitnik.
To Toronto: Alexei Zhitnik, and Jason Jason Botterill
To Buffalo: Alexei Ponikarovsky, Aki Berg And a 2nd round draft pick.
*Experts Look: I don't know how reliable these sources are, but McCabe is a good promising defensemen who could have some wonderful years in Dallas. His contract demands are too much for the Leafs considering the season he had last year. Plus it seems like the Leafs realize the future is now by getting a proven top defensemen and not waiting for McCabe to blossom. As for the Zhitnik trade, Kipreos is pretty accurate on his reports, so I'll give this one credibility. The Sabres want cheaper and younger players, which they are getting. And the Leafs basically solidify their top four defensemen. This should be interesting to see how things unfold in the next couple of days....
W.C.
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by Pavel_Bure_NYR on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | There is only one way out of this flurry of leaf information that most of us don't want to see, even some leaf fans that are sick of seeing bullshit posted about their team. So I propose there should be a seperate section of the site. (same format) This part will be for leaf posts/rumors/bullshit/and stories pulled out of the asses of the psychotic leaf fan like that Joey person who was from Cleveland and an hour late for the ralley she set up. In the normal section the intellegent leaf fan will right rumors and news from a legidimate source. All the psychos who don't make sense can fantasize in the new section. That way fans of other teams aswell as leaf fans who don't want to hear stories that probably were pulled from a person on ridalin's ass can listen to ligit rumors and news about other teams aswell as the TML, while the ones with info on how they can fix the leafs can talk in the special newsboard. We will call the normal board HTR and the second board LHTR-SP-ED which stand for Leafs hcoky trade rumours: special education, if you know what I mean.
Now that way everyones happy. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by Rampage_Winger on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | Holy hell! More Leafs news! I could squeal with joy!
There's an epidemic of Leafs articles. The only cure is the annihilation of the human race. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by bruinfan37 on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | The Fan is NOT a reliable source by any stretch of the imagination. Although, Toronto did just sign Ponikarovsky (today I think) it is a possible trade, but I still can't see it happening |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by markjohnston (gole@fs.go) on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | this seems moderately possible since I can't see any other reason the leafs would have kept berg and ponti around.
personally, I hope Pilar comes back up. that dude was money in the playoffs two years ago and early last season before he got offensively minded and started making huge gambles that almost always ended in mistakes.
in any case, I'm glad to see neither Kaberle or Pilar mentioned in the rumours. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by calflyers on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | HTR Sucks! |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by calflyers on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | eat at Joe's |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by calflyers on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | W.C. means "wigger country" |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by dishmunky (dood@hotmail.com) on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | Last time I heard, at the trade deadline, no one made a trade for Zhitnik because he was too expensive, and we all know them Leafs do not like to spend...Also, the Fan releases all kinds of stupid rumors that I hear from other posts, so I don't think this will come true either. PS: Wings RULE |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by adambuffalo on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | | i hope you are right...i am suprised buffalo would get anything for zhitnik. the only thing he can do is carry the puck, and even that is questionable. everyone i know in buffalo hate the guy and have been hoping for him to be traded for years now. it also would be great for buffalo to send him to a team in their division. he'll make just about any team's defense a little bit worse. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by calflyers on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | QUEEF |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by calflyers on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | NOVICE |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by calflyers on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | SUCKS!!!!!!!!! |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by FlyHigh on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | More Leaf crap. I have watched Sydor occasionally and to be perfectly honest, I'd rather have McCabe, so I don't really see that happening. That Zhitnik offer I doubt too. Buffalo is not trying to dump payroll since they got their new owner. The owner is a billionaire. If the Leafs wanted Zhitnik cheap should of done it at the trade deadline. I seriously doubt that any of these deals would happen. But hey, as a friend just pointed out, if Cechmanek can be traded for a 2nd rounder, anything can happen. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by calflyers on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | btw
i am not a millionaire
i only make $52,000 a year in the IT field
(i saw someone use that line on someone else and it really pissed the other guy off - a few of us had to talk him out of beating the crap out of the guy!)
tee hee
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by leafscooper4 on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | With all of the holes in the leafs line up why don't they fill those holes before trading. We are missing a lot of forwards and 3 d-men our lines look like this:
Roberts-Sundin-Mogilny
Renberg-Antropov(not resigned)- Nolan
Domi-Reicle-Fitz
Tucker-Green-?
Kaberle-McCabe
Marchment-?
?-?
Those are the regulars we should try and trade Reicle for anything. Renberg for a quality d-man such as Salei. Berg and Ponikarovsky for Zhitnek. Keep McCabe.
Sign Nieuwendyk, Arvedson, Gilmour and Tverdovsky, Todd Warriner
Trade: Gilmour and Tucker for Martin St. Louis because Gilmour will bring leadership to TB and Tucker will bring a physical presence to TB that they desperatly need.
New Lines:
Roberts-Sundin-Mogilny
Arvedson-Nieuwendyk-Nolan
Warriner-Antropov-St.Louis
Domi-Green-Fitzgerald
McCabe-Marchment
Kaberle-Salei
Zhitnek-Tverdovsky
Payroll:
Arvedson 2.2 million
Nieuwendyk 2.5 million
Marchment 2 million
Sundin 9 million
Nolan 4 million
St. Louis 1.9 million
Kaberle 1.75 million
Tverdovsky 3 million
Zhitnek 2.7 million
McCabe 3 million
Mogilny 5.5 million
Roberts 4.1 million
Antropov 1.8 million
Warriner 500 000
Domi 1.68 million
Fitzgerald 1 million
Salei 1 million
Green 2 million
Belfour 6.5 million
Kidd 500 000
That payroll is a little higher at 56.63 million dollars but it would be worth it for the players that we'd have.
ps. Personally I think that Sundin should take a pay cut for the team. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by WeStSiDe on Friday, July 18 (User Info | Send a Message) | | McCabe for Sydor? Leaf's would be nuts. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by Slavik on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | ya know what no one really cares about what the leafs are rumored to be doing.....3 hours i get an update about what the leafs are goign to be doing or what they should be doing...here is my suggestion.
1. The Franchise should move out of toronto.
Its simple, if the fans want to to protest the leafs not making moves the team should protest by not playing infront of the fans.
2.Hire osama and his friends to suicide bomb, all telephone companies, Cable companies and power companies...just have the buildigns evacuted first :)
that way the leaf fans dont lower others opinion of them if that is still a possiblity.
look at it this way....
Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres.
The one thing the Leafs SHOULD do.....
10 Things the Leafs could do to make them better.
What the '03-'04 Leafs should look like.
LEAFS HITTING THE TRADE MARKET?
Leaf Fan Plans to Protest
Marchment Signs With Toronto
Leafs to End Svehla Problem Today?
Leafs prospects
Arvedsson to become a Leaf...does he play defense?? de Vries to Leafs?
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Okay lets see...
What the '03-'04 Leafs should look like.
Marchment Signs With Toronto.
All this information could pretty much be put into those two categories.
compare it with your more succesfull other canadian teams.
Cloutier signs one year deal with the Nucks
Canucks ink top Russian prospect
Canucks Possible Offseason Moves
May Resigns with Vancouver.
Canuck Fans Want Holes Filled
Great year, a few suggestions
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yes in that short list almost three months was covered, amazingly enough there were more actually signings.
comapre it to ottawa
What the Ottawa Senators need to do to win the Cup
Sens, Smolinski talking new deal
Senators Great Season Re-Cap
3 posts 3 months covered, same total of season moves 1 signing.
So canucks 3 signings 5 posts 3 months
Sens 1 signing 3 posts 3 months
leafs 10 posts 9 Days covered
please shut up about the fricken maple leafs, they are the most covered team but have the least actuall news, 10 posts in 9 days with 1 move? Give me a break.
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Plea for sanity (Score: 1) by MantaRay on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) |
In a rare case, I actually agree with Titans.
This post and 10 preceeding Leaf posts are a waste of time.
HTR has become Maple Leaf fantasy gossip column and anti-Leaf fan sentiment is certainly on the rise because of it.
I am not saying ban all Leaf related stories, but maybe HTR should post one a week instead of the one redundant story per day we seem to be getting.
Lets ration the irrelevance on this site before the denomination of "Leaf Fan" attains more negative connotations and resentment from the fans of the other 29 teams that HTR is supposed to represent.
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Expert Says: Relax, And PAy Attention to what you are really Crying About.. (Score: 1) by Leaf_Expert on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | I agree that the site does have to cut down on the over posting of Leaf articles...
But you can say, "oh your contributing to the Leafs crap articles". Well this is a rumor,and what I do with my articles is I give a "Rumor Update". I wouldn't have treated this article any different if it were the Devils making these offers or the Thrashers. Its still an unbiased "Rumor Update".
And you members wouldnt be so protest towards all Leaf articles if it werent for all those other biased articles talking about basically how impatient they are with the Leafs and what moves they want them to make. Once again, my article is just a "Rumor Update".
So you should leave alone the articles that actually have meaning, when its really the "I Hate Leafs" or "What the Leafs should DO!" articles that you should be protesting about...
Also, with Mikster gone, their's no one really to make sure one topic isnt being overused. TradeMan is a great owner, but he isn't really paying attention to really how much of the same product hes constantly putting out. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by Wings4life on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | | On a sidenote... ESPN is reporting that the ducks and UFA Sergai Fedorov have agreed to a five year deal (not sure of the numbers). However Im not going to believe it until I see it someplace else because ESPN doesnt know ANYTHING about hockey. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by HockeyExpert (HockeyExpert13@msn.com) on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | Leafs are stupid if they trade McCabe for Sydor!
I would trade Reichel+A pick or sumthin to get Zhitnki maybe even Reichel+Pnikarovski.
Berg is not a bad D-Man it is just that Lumme slowed him down why couldn't anybody see that? |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by ranger_fan on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | | NO ONE CARES ABOUT WHAT THE LEAFS SHOULD DO, COULD DO, WILL DO, WON'T DO, OFFERED, GOT DECLINED BY, so shut the hell up. All Leaf fans are the same. Hell Mike Myers even put in Goldmember that the Leafs won the cup. Toronto voted the best city in the world was also in there. No wonder he was voted the most funniest man. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by Sabresfan1 on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | | Now that Fedorov signed with the ducks, will Leafs fans get up in arms about missing out on this one? |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by calflyers on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | i have no probs w/ Toronto fans actually
i said it before that i respect "loyal fans"
i have no probs except seeing "Expert says"...
then i read "what is said" and i want to puke
I am a "hockey geek", and i love to talk about it,
it's just when i see "the novices" posts, they make this site "Mickey Mouse"
i say "boycott the "Queefer"!!! |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by Tradedude (edbelfourfan@hotmail.com) on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | I'd rather have Aki-Petteri Berg. Seriously. So, he takes bad penalties, he makes 1.5 million, looks like a *****ed pea*****, and he can't skate worth poop. BUT ATLEAST HE'S DEFENSIVE.
As for the Sydor bullshit, why don't we just add Mogilny, and Colaiacovo to the deal. Hell, why not even sundin. Either way its another stupid made up rumor that FAN590 gets the credit for.
If anyone actually went to that site, it said that Hockey Analyst of sportsnet.ca reported to the Fan590 that Ast.GM of the Buffalo Sabres gave him insight that the Leafs and Sabres are closing in on a deal.
Now i jjust went on to sportsnet.ca and it has nothing on that rumor, but it might just be for fan590. Also, if you go to that site that leaf_ex-schmert gave us, u will see the post was by leaf_expert. well guess what, so much for the url. I can almost insure you these rumor are made up by leaf_expert. Cuz i always have fan590 on, and ive heard nothing, its all bluejay shit.
I have nothing against this leaf_expert guy, but im just saying that you have no proof, try getting some evidence for 1ce. Fan590 is receiving all this hatred from fans posting shit that SAID was on the fan. I personally do not believe anything leaf expert says, or fan 590 anymore.
Anyhoo, Go REDS Go for the current time. Man,. they suck lol. Griffey hurt AGAIN!!! DAMMIT! lol k cya alls |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by Tradedude (edbelfourfan@hotmail.com) on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | | oh and to add to that Ponikarovsky was re-signed. Yea, lets re-sign someone and trade them. Smart thinking there buddy. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by Sundin_02 (eastsider@eastside.com) on Saturday, July 19 (User Info | Send a Message) | McCabe for Sydor? wtf??? That's a defenseman for defenseman, in case you didn't realize. How the hell does that improve our D?
Why would the Sabres take our shit for their best defenseman? |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by TC_4 on Monday, July 21 (User Info | Send a Message) | | Zhitnik is good, but he's a second or third level d-man. Same with Sydor(was BRUTAL in the playoffs). There going to have to trade for a guy who hasn't blossmed yet, or trade up in the draft next year(should have this year and grabbed Coburn). Either way, my point is to get a guy who could become a number 1 stud on d. How about grabbing Mathieu Biron from Florida and just see what happens with some ice time. He's huge and has a nasty shot, sounds like good potential to me. |
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Re: Experts Rumor Update: Leafs Make Trade Offers To Stars And Sabres. (Score: 1) by ryeng on Sunday, July 20 (User Info | Send a Message) | Alot of you people are right. There are too many posts about bullshit trade rumors. There are all these rumors that the Leafs are going to trade crap and get something good in return.
Can someone outside the Toronto market tell me what player the TML's have that are of any value?
Tucker?
Green?
Burg?
i dont think these guys are worth anything at all. What can you get for guys like this? |
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