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 CSakicGAP writes "Gary Bettamn has finally taken the advice of Don Cherry and told Dick Pound to put up or Shut-up.
TSN is reporting that Gary Bettman finally sent a letter to WADA chairman Dick Pound telling him to prove his allegations and back them up with fact. This was in response to Pound saying the he had conclusive evidence from Coaches, team doctors and players that at least 1/3 of the league is usuing performance inhancing drugs. I'm sure not many of you missed the comments made by Cherry about the subject in the first intermission of last nights game but if you did they are available on the CBC website. Here is the article from TSN.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=145662&hubname=
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by 24_cups_and_counting on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | "Bettman calls out Dick Pound". Even the title makes me laugh.
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by Freeze on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Dick Pound has been doing just that. |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by Azalichio on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | In this case, I think it's more like Bettman who has to prove it's false. The idea that hockey has no problem while every other single major sports does is just too funny.
worse is, if you consider sudafed, wake up etc. as performance enhencing drugs ( which they are ), I wouldn't even be surprised if it's more then 50% of the players who abuse them. |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by wingerxxx on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Good for Bettman. When Pound first made his allegations, it made me furious. Not because Pound made the accusation. There could very well be players in the league that are doping for all we know. I mean, none of us are in the locker rooms. But the number he quoted was just outrageous. That is what got me angry. I'm glad that Bettman finally did this. It's about time, and hopefully Pound can let us know exactly what was on his mind when he made that idiotic statement in the first place. |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by Flyer_Dman on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | Worst...name....ever.
I am thinking about 75% of the reason you wrote this article is so that we could all make fun of his name. If my name is Dick Pound I would do everything possible to keep my name out of the limelight.
It's funny cause normally if a guy has a bad name like this the media is all over it, making fun of him and whatnot. However, the name Dick Pound is soo vulgar that sportscastors and news anchors alike aren't touching all of the potential jokes with a 20 ft pole. |
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Re: Not Steroids in the NHL! (Score: 1)
by cecilturtle on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | Yes maybe the number of players taking sudafed is very high... But give the players a break. What if you broke your nose like 50 times and can hardly breath out of it. Not to mention this huge piece of plastic gagging you as it protects your teeth. This mouthpeice makes it really tuff to breath out of your mouth! I say, let the poor saps take sudafed - There are many many worse things one could take!
As far as steroids... No hockey player would have the will power to not retailiate when pushed around if they were taking steroids. If I was a coach in the NHL and I knew a player on the other team was jucin... I would have my players get under his skin every chance they get until he takes a undisciplined penalty from roidrage! The NHL is the only sport Steroids does not make the player better!
Cecil Turtle |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by Aetherial on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | Are Dick Pound and Dick Trickle related?
How come we can't sterilize any parents intending to name their child Richard?
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by NjDEVSFN on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | Conclusive evidence from coaches, team doctors, and players....
the NHLs drug policy kicks in in January, yet, these coaches, team doctors, and players are just letting everyone do it until then? get out of here.
plus, in 1998 and 2002 the BEST PLAYERS FROM THE NHL from around the globe were tested according to Olympic standards and guess how many tested positive.
Silence is all i hear |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by habsoverserver on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | moog and savage on the sudafed scandal from 1998:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/features/1998/weekly/980202/nhlstory.html
quintal saying that 40% of nhl'ers take some stimulant prior to a game
http://proicehockey.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news%5Fstory.asp%3Fid=119199
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by robinson19 on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | Actually Cherry is the one entering a debate on a subject he knows nothing about. Allegations true or not, Pound is actually an expert on performance enhancing drugs and Cherry isn't.
Neither is Bettman.
That said, I too would like to see the "evidence".
Anyways, you just have to think back to an interview Brian Savage and Andy Moog gave back when they were with the Habs where they both admitted not only that they did eight times a normal dose of sudafed before every game, but that many players were up to all kinds of these tricks.
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by Hockey_Fan_99 on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | | what an unfortunate name "dick pound" |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by toronto77 on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | | this may be a little off topic but it still deals with drugs...who were those 2 hockey players like maybe 4 yrs ago (wasn't in the nhl) i don't know what league, but they would smoke weed before every game so they would be fired up or something like that, they would go crazy throwing big hits and everything ???????? |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by habsoverserver on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | Who appointed Dick Pound international drug czar?
One week he's trying to send Lance Armstrong up the river, the next he's attacking the NHL - what gives him the right?
What kind of proof does he have?
are we talking drug tests or rumors from former trainers
What are "performance enhancing substances"?
a cup of coffee can enhance performance, so can sudafed but neither is ilegal.
It sounds like Pound is trying to imply that there is steroid use in hockey but maybe what we really have is the sudafed abuse that sports illustrated mentioned four years ago.
At least most players don't smoke cigarettes anymore. |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by titans on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Dick Pound?? Your kidding right?? |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by kicksave856 on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | Can anyone tell me anything about Matt Ellison? The Flyers just traded Patrick Sharp and Eric Meloche to the Hawks for Ellison and a pick but I don't even know who Ellison is. I'm sure most fans who aren't Flyer fans don't know who Sharp is either, but I liked the way Sharp played and don't understand trading him now for another guy that I have never heard of.
Can anyone help me out here? Someone please tell me something good about this Ellison guy so I can understand why we even did this. PLEASE!
Just seems like a useless trade for both teams to me right now. |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by bammer91 on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | | don cherry should be the commisinor...............good buy instagator rule |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by habs79 on Monday, December 05
(User Info | Send a Message) | | Dick Pound is a loser crying for some attention. If he wants a drug problem, he should go worry about track and feild cause you know everyone who hit's the gym and trains can run that fast while being that big. Hockey players hit the gym just as much if not more than other athletes, and yet if you look the average NHLer is around 6 feet, 200 pounds. |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by Azalichio on Tuesday, December 06
(User Info | Send a Message) | Must say you guys are hilarious. This is a serious subject btw, it's not because anyone hasn't dropped dead "yet" that we shouldn't act on it. And drop the names joke already, it gets boring after the first one.
The truth is that yes alot of hockey players are taking certain enhencing drugs. Be it pills or worse.
Pound did mentioned later on a radio show that after talking with doctors who treated hockey athletes it was closer to 80% but since the number was way too high he dropped it down to 30%. Which in his opinion was high enough to spark a debate but low enough for some people to think it might be possible.
They say the burden of the proof always lies on the shoulder of the accuser but I'm not so sure on this one. The NHL has said they don't have a drug related problems for years. Baseball said the same thing. Amateur sports said the same thing. Football and Basketball is saying the same thing. There are certain amateur sports now where people using drugs is a given. We all know how it is in Baseball. Would it be surprising if we found out that a big portion of Hockey, football and Basketball players take some kind of drugs? Sure the drugs differ from sports to sports but it's basically the same thing.
In amateur sports, depending of which sports we talk about, it'S sometimes close to 20% of the athletes who get caught cheating. Of course this doesn't take into account the numbers of athlete who use the latest drug technology that is completely invisible to those test.
Hockey is supposed to test every players at least twice a year, at random. How come we still haven't heard of any test?
Let's not forget also of course the crazy schedule, where some teams plays almost 9 games in 15 days. The human body is simply not made to take that kind of punishment, no matter how well trained you are. Some players can do it better then other, but most simply can't. This is where pills like "sudafed" and "wake up" and other things like that comes in. These pills will gve you the required energy boost to go trough these phase, especially at the end of the season or in the playoff.
Last but not least arguments of course is money. Take your typical NHLers, if he plays 4 years he's lucky. Many won't even stay that long. Now this guy isn't that bad, he can score 5 goals a season and maybe get 5 pass. Defensively he's alright but nothing spectacular. he's payed the league's minimum trough all his career then retire. Now if he takes these pills, he might be able to play 2 or even 3 more years. We are talking about over a million dollar, ( 475k x3 = 1.425million ). Plus, he might actually manage to have one or 2 season where he get 10 goals and over 15 passes. which should raise his salary for quite a bit. Was it worth it? in the end I guess it did, especially if the drugs is invisible to the few "tests" the league asked for..
But is it worth it? of course not. Addiction, lack of sleep, nausea, troubled stomach, heart related problems and many, many more side effects will follow you for the rest of your life. Not only that, but by using these things you always set the bar higher and higher, which mean that the next generation has to take something stronger or at least the same thing if they want to get in the NHL.
At this point I'm just rambling, but I'm very disapointed at how the hockey world reacted to this. You'd think it would spark a debate, you'd think people would try to prove it's simply not true. But instead people are simply sitting on their asses saying it's "impossible" and asking Pound to "prove his numbers". Hell, if Hockey is so clean, why not outright ban players who get caught. Why not prove to the world how clean and perfect we are, I mean it could be a good marketing move no? "See the Superman who are real drug-free man" or something... |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by BUTTMAN on Tuesday, December 06
(User Info | Send a Message) | WHORE OFF!!!!
How about "Buttman calls out Dick Pound".....
See... I'm a visionary... |
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Re: Bettman Calls Out Dick Pound (Score: 1)
by habs79 on Tuesday, December 06
(User Info | Send a Message) | I figured it all out, do you all remember when Pound, WADA and the IOC wanted to take the gold medal away from the Canadian snowboarder cause he tested positive for weed. They considered weed a "performance enhancer". Which by the way shows how stupid they all truely are. The only way weed enhanced his performance is if he looked down from the starting gate and saw a 20 FOOT TWINKE at the end of the run.
Since we are taking steps to legalize weed in Canada, maybe he thinks all the Canadian players are getting high, and apparently they consider that a performance enhancer. |
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