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 | Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! |
hockey_lover writes "Its almost less than 100 days to the Olympics .. and boy, how things change in such a short period of time.
When the potential Olympic squad met in the summer, there appeared to be some "sure things" at camp. There were also some players that weren't at the camp that never would have had a chance to be there.
A month into the season, some things have changed.
Dustin Penner is surely making a case to be at the Olympics. On pace for a 50g/105pt season is surely helping his cause. However, since his career high is 47pts, it would seem unlikely that he can keep up this pace, but hey, ya never know.
After a few uninspiring seasons, Ryan 'Captain Canada' Smyth seems to be back in form in a big bad way. On pace for a 103pt season, he will surely get some extra consideration. He was at the camp but really, how many people expected him to make the team?
Brad Richards also had a few really rough seasons of late. But now that he is on pace for 113pts, he would seem like a lock to make the team.
Ryan Getzlaf seemed like a lock to make the team. But with 1 goal in the first 12 games, is that still the same?
Iginla is on pace for his lowest point total since 98/99. One will still say that he is almost a sure thing to make the team, but, ya never know.
While some said that Crosby would captain the team, he started the season pretty slowly. While it has pick up a bit lately, Sid still stands to finish with his lowest point total (outside of 07/08's injuries) in his career, although, his goal total is on pace to shatter his previous best of 39.
Francois Beauchemin was at camp but it seems like an extreme longshot he makes the team at this point. His play thusfar this season has been dreadful, to say the least.
Mike Green was at camp based on his ridiculous offensive season of 31g/73pts. It would seem insane not to have him there as an offensive threat. However, his defensive game is a bit suspect, as many have noted. Since he only have 2 goals right now and is on pace for 11, is his current limited offense still enough to outweigh his shoddy defense?
Everyone seemed to assume that the goalies on the team would be Brodeur, Luongo, and Ward (with Mason a close runner up to Ward). Fleury wasnt given much of a chance at all. But is that still the same?
Based on his experience, you would have to think Brodeur is a lock. He ended last season on a HUGE down note and this season started just as bad. However, the last few weeks, the old Marty has shown up and has raised his game.
Luongo certainly hasnt played his best hockey this season. Despite his injury, he has let in quite a few soft goals. With his save% JUST below .900 and his GAA a bit below 3.00, they will represent his lowest totals in quite some time (99/00 for save%, 05/06 for GAA). Given that the games are in his hometown, is he a lock, even if his play is poor?
Cam Ward has not been good at all. However, neither have the Hurricanes. With a save% under .900 and a GAA over 3.00, one would have to think that if his play doesnt pick up, he would be passed over.
Steve Mason has certainly not played his best hockey this season. With a GAA of over 3.50 a game, the chances of him making the team are slim. While the Canadians shouldnt have a problem scoring goals, having to score more than 4 every game may prove to be difficult. A save% of .880 isnt inspiring either.
MA Fleury was considered an afterthought to make the team. But after the first month of the season, his play has been stellar. However, much like Ward (however the opposite), playing behind the team that he is may be inflating his stats. Still, one cant deny the stats: 9 wins out of 11 games, a save% of .918 and a GAA of 2.07. That has got to be worth something. Definitely not the starting job, given his limited experience but certainly a small consideration for the backup. If not, then without a doubt, the taxi goalie.
All in all, it looks like Stevie Y has a lot of big decisions to make ... some that he likely never planned on.
What do you guys think?"
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by pezzz123 on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | Staal - Crosby - Iginla Nash - Getzlaf - Heatley Carter - Thornton - Sharp Morrow - Richards - Doan Toews, Marleau
Niedermayer - Pronger Bouwmeester - Weber Keith - Seabrook Boyle, Regehr
Fleury Brodeur Luongo
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by jonnygf40 (jonnygf40@hotmail.com) on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | | Nash Crosby Iginla
Heatley Thornton Marleau
Lucic Getzlaf Perry
Smyth Richards (M) Morrow
extra: Neal, Richards (B), Carter
Niedermayer Phaneuf
Bouwmeester Doughty
Keith Seabrook
extra: Boyle, Weber
Brodeur, Luongo, Fleury
Now I know everyone's lineup will look different, but I have some reasons. First off, I think the lineup needs some bruisers. Nash, Getzlaf, Lucic, Smyth and Morrow have to go around and hit every single Swede, Russia and American they can find. They need to wear down other countries defense, and beat them into the ground. The rest of the team will be able to put the puck in the net, no matter who they put into the lineup. They just have to work as a team. Their defense needs to be agile, quick and tough. In my opinion Pronger was exposed last olympics as being too slow. We need a group that are offensive yet reliable. This group has to be able to keep up to Ovechkin, Kovalchuk, Zetterberg, Datsyuk, Parise, Vanek and many others. We can't have a defensive corp that can't keep up with them. |
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by Kramer on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | | Wade Belak should make the team. |
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by FlamingHomer on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | If I had to pick 1 Flame to play for Canada, right now it would be Rene Bourque. No Jarome, no Robin. Oh and Dion, you were never on my list.
J. Bouw would be given high consideration since there aren't a lot of quality defensemen to pick from.
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by 93killer93 on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | M.Richards-Crosby(C)-Iginla(A) Nash-Thorton-Heatley Perry-Getzlaf-Carter Smyth(A)-Lecavalier-St. Louis Toews Taxi: Savard, Marleau, Doan
Niedermayer(A)-Promger(A) Phaneuf-Weber Boumester-Boyle Green
Taxi: Keith, Seabrook, Burns
Brodeur Luongo Fleury
Taxi: Mason, Price, Ward |
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by FlamingHomer on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | There is absolutely no chance that Iginla could be playing on a line with Jokinen so based on that, I say let him on the team.
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by broc on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | Stamkos IMO is playing his way onto Team Canada. Is he a complete enough player to make it though?
I would love to see Morrow/M Richards/Doan as the checking or PK line.. unmatched by any country.
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by lukeleim on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | Rick Nash - Sidney Crosby - Jarome Iginla Dany Heatley - Joe Thornton - Martin St. Louis Brenden Morrow - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry Ryan Smyth - Mike Richards - Shane Doan Jeff Carter
Scott Niedermayer - Chris Pronger Jay Bouwmeester - Shea Weber Duncan Keith - Dion Phaneuf Dan Boyle
Marc-Andre Fleury Martin Brodeur Roberto Luongo
Taxi: Steven Stamkos, Drew Doughty, Patrick Marleau |
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by lukeleim on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | Rick Nash - Sidney Crosby (A) - Jarome Iginla (A) Dany Heatley - Joe Thornton - Martin St. Louis Brenden Morrow - Ryan Getzlaf - Corey Perry Ryan Smyth (A) - Mike Richards - Shane Doan Jeff Carter
Scott Niedermayer (C) - Chris Pronger Jay Bouwmeester - Shea Weber Duncan Keith - Dion Phaneuf Dan Boyle
Marc-Andre Fleury Martin Brodeur Roberto Luongo
Taxi: Steven Stamkos, Drew Doughty, Patrick Marleau |
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by muckies on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | Cam Ward is off the team, and maybe Mason is on now I think for sure, maybe Fluery, that'll be a hard choice.
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by Kramer on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | Team Canada needs more fighters. Colton Orr, Eric Boulton, and Eric Goddard on the fourth line.
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Re: Olympic Squad - how the times change!!! (Score: 1) by mcfeets (mcfeets_30@hotmail.com) on Wednesday, November 04 (User Info | Send a Message) | Rick Nash Sid Crosby'A' Jarome Iginla'A' Ryan Getzlaf Joe Thorton Dany Heatley Eric Staal Vinny Lecavalier Marty St. Louis Jonny Toews Mike Richards Shane Doan
Jay Bouwmeester Chris Pronger'A' Scotty Neidermeyer'C' Shea Weber Brent Seabrook Mike Green
Roberto Luongo Marty Broudeur
Taxi- Marc Andre Fleury, Patrick Marleau, Brendan Morrow, Jeff Carter, Dan Boyle
-I dont think veteren/proven players like Lecavalier, Getzlaf and Staal can be left off the team just because they have been slumping through the first 12 games of the season. They are dominate players and in a short tournament they are game changers. People like Pierre McGuire who put players on the team who are hot at the moment are wrong. The tournament is in Febuary and against the best players from the other countries. Yzerman is going to pick the best players in the Canada. The ones who can play with and without the puck. The ones that can play all aspescts of the game. Canada has the luxury of having great depth. If one of the top 20 players isnt pulling their weight there are 5 great players waiting for their chance on the taxi squad. You have to pick the best players who make the best team. For an example Steve Stamkos, sure hes hot and filling the net but when the level of play is higher i'd rather have Vinny Lecavalier checking guys like Oveckin and Malkin in your own zone. A guy like Stamkos would have to have an offensive role on the team and i think there are more then 9 guys ahead of him on the depth chart.
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