Huge three way deal in the works
Sportsnet is reporting a rumor regarding a possible huge three way deal between the Kings, Senators and the Hawks.
The deal between the three teams would see the following players trading teams.
LA would get
Martin Gerber and Andrej Meszaros
Chicago would get
Anze Kopitar
Senators would get
Khabibulin + Seabrook or B arker
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Careful Kramer, danger lurks in every corner in Tinsel Town…and not just the Russian Mob guys with gold teeth, body odor and greasy hair.
Let us know if you find Jimmy Hoffa.
You aren't looking at the bigger picture. First, Meszaros had his partner changed. He played on his unnatural side after his rookie year. That's a big problem. He also played with Wade Redden who has been playing poorer in the past couple seasons. With Smith in town, Mes gets to move back to his natural side and can take risks knowing he has a formidable defensive defenseman helping him.
Also, with the increased salary that Ottawa takes, we miss out on the opportunity to sign a top 6 forward.
so, the deal to sens fans looks like this:
In: Khabibulin, Seabrook
Out: Mez, Gerber….
vs.
Ottawa stays with Gerber and Mez AND gets a top 6 forward. it makes sense for us to stay away from this trade.
Ah, this is what I get for not paying attention. Thanks guys.
Hmm…no need for Knabby then, really. Chicago may as well trade him.
lol i didnt think of that:P But Mesaros is a good player, not as good as anze kopitar though, so i thought i'd better just leave it at that
JUST SO ALL OF YOU KNOW……….
first of all i am a leafs fan so naturally i want the sens to flop… but this deal is actually a very smart move for the sens…. khabibulin hasn't been as strong as he has been in the past, but that could be due to the fact that he hasn't played on a strong up front team since tampa. i personally think that l.a is getting a bit of a raw deal in this one. Gerber is a realiable back up at best, he hasn't been a steady goaltender since carolina, but that's not exactly his fault, the undoing of the sens was mostly due to locker room bulls#it. so perhaps a fresh start with L.A is what he needs. Meszaros is a great pick up, i just don't think Seabrook is an even trade. If the sens land this one, great job by murray. Bottomline is after watching the sens get so close and blow it in the end for the last two years, has been an enjoyment for me to watch, perhaps that's come to an end.
Alright, by swapping Gerber for Bulin the Sens are taking on an extra 3 mil in cap space. Both of them are in the last year of their deals so the move does not affect the future, and it is a good move for the present as the team has a better chance to win with Khabibulin. Seabrook is making 3.5 mil, and Meszaros is still unsigned. The way the market is, I'm assuming Mes will get similar money. Talent-wise, I don't see much of a difference.
So in the end, your defense is unchanged, your goaltending is improved and your team salary goes up by 3 mil. That still leaves close to 7 million to sign Vermette which is much more than you will need.
Finally, what top 6 forward are the Sens going to sign? The only one left is Mats Sundin, and he will not be in a Senators jersey next year. All of the top forwards available came and went and the Sens never made a move. If I were a Sens fan, I would rather see what they can do with Khabibulin in net this year, then wait and see what they can do with the extra cap space in the summer of '09.
I think its a steal for Ottawa. Seabrook has potential to be a Dion Phaneuf type of player. And Khabibulin is just a plain better goalie than Gerber. BTW you are WAY Overvaluing Meszaros! hes not that great. Redden didnt f*ck up his year last year. Meszaros will be a great 2nd pairing defenceman not a 1st pairing though. He will only ever get 15 goals and 40 points. This trade is only good for Ottawa and Chicago although Kopitar to Chicago is BS. So really only Ottawa. So just stop telling us about how great Meszaros is!
I don't really see that deal working out for LA.
I think a straight 3-way goalie trade would benefit all teams:
To LA: Gerber
To Chicago: Labarbera
To Ottawa: Khabibulin
Ottawa probably wins it in terms of talent, but Chicago dumps salary and gets a solid back-up, while LA adds salary, as well as a good dressing room presence. So everybody's happy.
I really like that trade but I don't think Ottawa has the cap room for Khabibulin, plus the still need to resign a couple RFAs.
I think a straight Labarbera for Khabibulin would be perfect for both teams.
I'm not sure where you got your numbers.
Right now, without Vermette or Meszaros signed, we have less than 10 mil.
Meaning, if we eat 3.5, and an extra 3 on Bulin, we're at 3.5 remaining, just enough to sign vermette and we have no room for a deadline deal.
Sorry, I forgot to add Seabrook's salary so you're right. But my point was that Meszaros is going to get around Seabrook's money too. The way I see it, the Sens are going to need to make a move for a goalie at the deadline anyways because they will not win with Gerber in net. Just spend the money on Bulin now and give yourself a chance to compete. But I really don't get why we're arguing over this anyways, as this trade has zero chance of happening.
That trade does benefit all teams, but there would obviously have to be draft picks or prospects involved too. The Hawks aren't trading Bulin for Labarbera straight up.
Yeah, that's probably true, but they are over the cap, so in desperation, they may have to get ripped in a trade, as they are not coming from a position of power. Bryzgalov had to be put on waivers. Mason only fetched a third round pick. The Hawkes may still want a little more for Khabibulin though, I agree with you there.
To Ottawa: Nikolai Khabibulin
To LA: Martin Gerber
To Chicago: Jason Labarbera, LA 2RDP