Time for the Jets to make a deal for a d-man

Gary Lawless of the Winnipeg Free Press writes …. Time to deal yourself in, Chevy … Better to trade for a blue-liner than to sit tight

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30 Responses to Time for the Jets to make a deal for a d-man

  1. leafy says:

    What do the Leafs need to do to win the cup this year? Discuss.

  2. leafy says:

    Leaf skeptics point to the analytics to say the Leafs are not for real.

    But if you dig a little deeper, you’ll see a couple of big differences from last year.

    Firstly, the Leafs were one of the worst teams in the league in shots on goal last year (below 28 SOG per game). This year, they are middle of the pack, and have increased shots to an average of over 30 SOG.

    Second, the Leafs also have improved immensely on shots against. Last year, they were one of the worst at about 36 shots against, this year they’ve shaved that to 33 shots. That’s huge!

    So while there’s still room for improvements, the analytics for the Leafs aren’t really that bad. If they reduce the turnovers, they can cut shots further. Get rid of Jake Gardiner and you’ve won half the battle. haha!

  3. leafy says:

    The other big factor corsi doesn’t consider is goaltending. In 2006-07, the Leafs had the second best corsi in the league after Detroit, but missed the playoffs because of horrible goaltending by Andrew Raycroft and JS Aubin (0.888 save pct).

  4. leafmeister says:

    If they could replace Gardiner with a reliable veteran to take minutes away from Phaneuf/Franson, they’d be much better off.

    If Bernier continues to play lights out, and the goal scoring doesn’t cool off too much, the Leafs would be a handful in a playoff series. I really hope they don’t collapse again.

  5. leafmeister says:

    Not that they need any more offence, but how cool would it be if the Leafs picked up Jagr at the deadline? It would be so awesome to see him in blue and white.

  6. TmLeafan says:

    The way I see it the Leafs can be serious cup contenders with Phil Kessel as their best player but not with Phaneuf as their best dman. We need a top pairing dman and a top line centre. I think Morgan Rielly will be a top pairing LD, we need one for the right side. Moving forward our lineup would look like this:



    Josh Harding

    Hopefully we can trade Clarkson to someone and use Gardiner, Bozak, Riemer also for trade chips. Possibly Lupul too.

    Nylander should be ready to contribute and play 2nd pp minutes in place of Clarkson. Our bottom 2 defence lines look really good, great 2nd line centre and good wingers.

  7. leafs_wallace93 says:

    So with people get carried away, do you trade the 1st round pick at the deadline?

    • Gambo says:

      No. Definitely not.

    • leafy says:

      No, that’s extreme. I’m only saying we shouldn’t dismantle the current roster. Let’s see how they do in the weeks ahead.

      • leafs_wallace93 says:

        If you could package Kadri, Franson and Riemer right now for Hall, would you pull the trigger?

          • TmLeafan says:

            Ya, fan of Kadri but would do that trade. Put Hall on a half decent team he would put up huge numbers

            • leafy says:

              Reminds me of that time the Leafs landed Sundin. It was tough to trade Wendel Clark, the heart and soul of the team and Sylvain Lefebvre was the best defenceman, but to get a superstar like Sundin, you have to pay the price. In retrospect we know that was one of Toronto’s best trades ever. Taylor Hall would look good in blue and white for a very long time.

              • leafmeister says:

                Doesn’t Hall’s style of play kind of concern you though? Part of what makes him effective is his reckless abandon, and its also what makes him injury prone.

                That type of problem doesn’t typically get better with age either.

        • leafmeister says:

          Sure, but Edmonton wouldn’t. You’d have to think any deal involving Hall would require Morgan Rielly.

        • Steven_Leafs0 says:

          That package is an amazing move for Toronto. Losing Kadri would be painful but Bozak, Holland, Santorelli, Komarov, Smith is not a bad group of centers until we can find a replacement if needed (Lupul would be a nice trade bait piece, Clarkson is better but good luck there).

          Also we would free up $2.5M in salary this year and probably $5M or more in future years (excluding a goalie and defensive replacement).

          The big issue would be Franson’s UFA status likely forcing us to include a conditional draft pick or 2.

          The deal screams solid deal for both sides but with some risk. More risk for Edmonton as they would need all 3 pieces to grow into their expected potential and stay there.

          Such a cool trade idea, I wish they didn’t screw up NHL 15 so bad that I didn’t buy it. Haha

  8. LN91 says:

    Trade 1st rounders? Prospects? Players? Way to jump he gun.

    I think we learned (or reminded) why no one believes in this squad, good/playoff teams do not donate points.

    • blaze says:

      What a nonsensical point. Any team In the NHL can beat any other team any given night. Can they avoid long slumps (all teams have them) and hold a playoff spot through 82? I think with the added depth and player growth yes they can.

      If they can’t hold a spot then Carlyle is fired.

      • LN91 says:

        It’ not, it was even mentioned in the telecast. Top teams, for the most part, put away the non-playoff teams on most nights.

        If Toronto misses the playoffs by 3-points…Well, you have a blowouts to Buffalo and Carolina (already) to look at (Yes, as obvious, Carlyle will get the blame…But, it’s up to the players to show up, which they did not last night).

        Look at the Raptors…They have won the games they have too, which is what makes you the playoff team.

        • leafy says:

          Okay okay. Let’s all just relax. It’s one game. We still need to see way more games to see where we’re at.

          I really think the Leafs are not that far off. One more good D to replace Gardiner, and maybe the odd upgrade at forward, and I think this is a pretty good team.

        • blaze says:

          If you find yourself agreeing with sportsnets misfit group of goofballs you should really start to question yourself.

    • leafs_wallace93 says:

      Didn’t drink the koolaid this season (like I did in the shorten season), how scary is Nonis though, he trade to trade a pick for Kipper that year, he tried to flip our 1st for Vanek last season. By some miracle the other party somehow saved the Nonis from himself in each case.

      We’ve got the Nonis sweetheart goalie trade, what else does he have in his tool box? Dead weight Davey.

      • leafs_wallace93 says:

        typo he tried to trade…

      • leafmeister says:

        Not to mention the fact he tried to sign Bolland for nearly 5 mil. Thank god Bolland was too greedy.

      • blaze says:

        The moves he supposedly went after are concerning. Still has made some good trades in his short stint. Holland and Polak were good moves. Grabbing Panik.

        Being insulated with Dubas and Shanny has to help. I’m fine with axing Nonis but if Dubas is the ‘heir apparant’ do you hand him the reigns now or bring in an old hand intermediary.

  9. leafs_wallace93 says:

    Again, we see if Johnny and James aren’t lights out this team is lost.

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